In this episode of the Vernon Richard Show, Richard and Vernon discuss the challenges and opportunities in coaching software engineers on quality engineering. They explore personal updates, family dynamics, and the importance of perspective in quality and risk management. The conversation delves into the significance of code quality, effective communication, and the role of engineers in ensuring quality. They also touch on the need for hands-on learning and practical application in quality engineering training, concluding with a call to action for listeners to share their experiences and insights.
Links to stuff we mentioned during the pod:
00:00 - Intro
00:48 - Welcome ramble
05:25 - Rich's question: An Engineer colleague wants to be coached on Quality Engineering, what do I do?
08:24 - Vern goes into coaching mode (shock!)
09:35 - Vern goes into teaching mode (shock!)
10:04 - Where could we start?
12:25 - Risk enters the chat...
14:50 - Quality enters the chat...
15:48 - Help them speak up and become a QA (Question Asker)
17:30 - Two powerful questions to get them thinking about quality
19:15 - The dangers of acting like an order taker...
19:57 - ...or are they?
21:45 - Uno Reverse! Is it true that all Engineers "love" writing code?
23:18 - Order Takers vs Experts
24:30 - Another powerful question to ask
25:47 - Rich's clarification sparks an idea about hats
27:17 - Slalom Sponsorship Appeal
27:41 - How do you decide when you have learned enough on a given topic?
29:21 - Majors and minors
30:55 - Learning modalities
31:42 - Learning tools
35:00 - A "syllabus" or roadmap starts to emerge
36:50 - What can the Engineer do to help the QEs in their life?
43:29 - Send us your ideas please
45:54 - The 1-to-many approach
47:53 - The classic mistake to avoid in this situation
49:15 - The relationship between testing and quality
52:10 - Vernon's people will contact Slalom's people
Episode 26